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Press Conference
Palais des Nations
Geneva
October 1st, 2002
Arthur E. "Gene" Dewey
Assistant Secretary of State
Bureau of Population, Refugees, and Migration
SECRETARY DEWEY: Good morning everyone. It's good to be with you.
I'm here for the annual meeting of the High Commissioner of Refugees,
the Executive Committee Meeting. This is an opportunity to try to
get a common picture with both the donor states and the recipient
states of refugees along with the principal organization mandated
to deal with refugees on what the needs are and what the donors
can do to meet those needs.
As I said during the statement yesterday at the plenary session,
it has been an extraordinary year that we are in the process of
finishing. It's not just the year that was, it is a year that will
certainly be with us for the rest of our lives. We were reeling
in shock a year ago from the impact of the terrorist attacks on
the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, the scourge of terrorism
clearly has not gone away around the world. The global war on terrorism
continues, but there have been some bright spots. The Taliban in
Afghanistan -- and this is the area which is our central focus now
-- is gone. Al Qaeda is on the run, and oppression for women in
Afghanistan has been lifted. Many lives have been saved as a result
of the international effort to provide life-sustaining support to
the vulnerable people in Afghanistan. We say that in war, humanity
and truth are the first casualties. In the case of the war in Afghanistan
and the worldwide war on terrorism humanity has not been the first
casualty. It's been right up there with the military action in terms
of the priorities in terms of my government and the partnership
with the international community.
The return home of 1.7 million Afghans, this is the biggest return
in modern history. If you realize the effort, the Herculean task
of planning and staffing and budgeting for only 800,000 returns,
which seemed like a lot, when it was planned for, and now more than
twice that number have come back to Afghanistan. The problem we
face is that the money, the special appeal to take care of their
needs and to help reintegrate them hasn't been increased. A 271
million dollar special program of the High Commission of Refugees
has been held at that level even though the numbers of beneficiaries
have doubled. UNHCR just simply must have the resources to do its
job. UNHCR has the mandated responsibility for protection of refugees
and for solutions to their problems. In the EXCOM and all through
the year we stay very much engaged with the UNHCR to hold it to
its responsibilities and to provide the means at least from our
government to enable them to carry out their responsibilities.
Because the US Government is committed to multilateralism, we give
all of our refugee money directly through the UNHCR. And we call
on other states to do the same. Some other donor states tend to
act unilaterally this is a time when we are criticized in Europe
in particular being unilateralists in the US and I have to remind
those critics that we don't take the back seat to anyone with respect
to multilateralism when it comes to assisting refugees.
But it's not just Afghanistan where the needs are great, although
that's our top priority. Africa hosts and produces large numbers
of refugees. Taken together the 50-plus countries of the African
continent present the full range of refugee challenges and opportunities,
but often fail to get the attention they deserve because of priorities
elsewhere. But because other donors have not done their full share
the United States has had to increase its normal 25 percent share
of UNHCR's refugee programs to 30 percent of those programs for
Africa. We do welcome in Africa the hopes for peace that should
allow hundreds of thousands of refugees there to return to their
homes in such places such as Sierra Leone and Angola and Eritrea.
But our top priority does remain Afghanistan. I've just come back
from Kabul. Secretary Powell has asked me to return to Kabul after
this meeting, where I will be staying another two or three weeks
to continue our efforts to bring the various pillars of activity
together to make sure that they are mutually reinforcing. And Secretary
of State Powell has taken a personal interest in this, and it's
not just a matter of our staying the course and putting in the resources
that are needed, but it's a matter of coordinating this effort,
with all the security and the humanitarian and the political aspects
of it, to make sure that it does reinforce each other.
The bright spots about Afghanistan are the structures which have
been placed by the United Nations but in concert and in harmony
with the administration of Afghanistan. Now this is something that
the press doesn't get excited about very often, that is something
which is orderly and structured and is working. But the program
secretariat effort in Afghanistan is one that is unique. It provides
an opportunity to hold accountable the UN agencies that haven't
always been held accountable in the past, but the real brilliance
and genius of the program secretariat model in Afghanistan is, the
twinning with counterpart Afghan Ministries who are very eager to
take-up the planning and the programming and the budgeting and the
policy aspects of what the UN is doing, but they need a lot of capacity
building. And this structure is providing that transition capacity
to the Afghan authorities. The negative aspects are that the coping
mechanisms of the Afghan people have just about run out. The effects
of a four year long, the worst in a hundred years, have been enormous,
when you understand that the basic occupation of Afghanistan is
agriculture, 80 percent of the effort is in agriculture. The impact
of this is just enormous, the debt burden for Afghan people -- because
they've had to go into debt to survive -- and this is a very shameful
practice for an Afghan. And so the emphasis on income generating
projects is so important just to give Afghans a chance to get some
cash, to start paying off the debt and to try to survive through
the winter. And this is one of our biggest challenges; the uncertainty
as to whether the donor effort so far is going to be enough to permit
the Afghans to stay back in their homes, or if they will be forced
to some other alternatives to get through the winter. And these
other alternatives are not very happy ones. The first one could
be a flocking of the rural returnees -- the refugees who have come
back from Pakistan and Iran -- back to the cities where they would
hope to find help and may be work and not finding it there because
the cities are so impacted that they might go back to Pakistan.
This is my nightmare scenario. It is the one that we worry a lot
about. The problem really lies with food this winter, and the fact
that not enough food has been provided by the donor countries is
an enormous concern of us all. The fact that the U.S. Agency for
International Development (USAID) is now providing over 80 percent
of all of these critical food needs for Afghanistan. It is also
a very worrying development.
We welcome the recent European Union announcement of food purchases
in Kazakhstan of 44,000 tons which will arrive on time for the Afghan
winter. But food is the factor that will get Afghanistan through
the winter and lack of food will be the factor which could cause
a reversal, repatriation, this major repatriation in modern history.
This what needs to be avoided. I think that our founding which we
provide through UNHCR, does recognize the indivisibility of the
High Commissioner for Refugees' role of protection and assistance.
You cannot divide those roles. It 's not the same if you give all
your money directly to NGOs, as oppose to giving all of your money
to UNHCR and insisting that UNHCR implement its programs through
NGOs.
Finally, I would like to say that, as Ginna Lewis knows, I had
several years, several decades I guess, in this business, and in
all that time, I have never seen a staff for UNHCR or any UN agency
as competent and as effective as the staff that the High Commissioner
pulled together here in Geneva and in Kabul in Afghanistan for this
effort. It's extraordinary. So I make a special tribute to them
today and assure all of you that donor states are well placed in
putting their money with this organization. Thank you very much
and I welcome your questions.
QUESTION: Could you give us a global figure as to how much money
the United States gives to UNHCR and also give us figures for Afghanistan
and Africa. With this lack of funding provided by the donors as
well as security problems in Afghanistan, It just seems that Afghanistan
is in a very difficult situation right now and it could potentially
fall through the cracks.
DEWEY: The United States is a reliable contributor to UNHCR for
approximately 25 percent of the regular budget of UNHCR. That regular
budget is in the region of eight hundred million dollars a year.
So the two hundred million is our approximate reliable contribution
to the general programs. Now a program such as Afghanistan is a
special appeal kind of program. Now it's for 271 million dollars.
We have contributed between 55 and 60 million dollars to that.
For Africa the proportion is higher than 25 percent. We have to
give about 30 percent of UNHCR 's programs for Africa, because other
donors tend not to be as generous for programs in Africa. The needs
are so great that we are compelled to do it for reasons of bringing
these standards up just to survival levels for refugees in Africa.
Secondly you have heard of the sexual exportation scandal in West
Africa, the need to get more protection staff for UNHCR involved.
That's expensive but it's an investment that has to be made, to
enable UNHCR to carry out its sacred mandate for refugee protection.
As for the money for Africa I may have to turn to Paula Lynch to
give me the exact amount for Africa. Paula was with us in Washington.
Now she is with us in Geneva and she carries all these figures around
in her head and she might just have the Africa figure.
LYNCH: The total that the US provided to UNHCR for Africa Programs
is 102 million dollars for fiscal 2002 which ended yesterday. That
was 92 million to the regular annual programs and 10 million toward
various emergency and special appeals that were issued.
QUESTION: What about the security and donor issue in Afghanistan
DEWEY: Security is paramount. You've heard the news reports of
the attacks in Kabul, the attempt on the President 's life. It's
a very narrow margin for security. Human rights is a major problem.
That's why there is this tremendous emphasis on getting an Afghan
national army, getting a professional police force operating. And
I hope, as well, human rights programs to disseminate international
human rights law around the country in a way that the International
Committee of the Red Cross is disseminating even to the warlords
international humanitarian law. These things are possible in Afghanistan,
they are not moving fast enough now. Part of our concern in the
United States is to try to facilitate and be a catalyst for quicker
movement on the extension of security outside of the capital. The
security in the capital itself is problematical and we know the
difficulty of getting a country or countries to form a coalition
of the willing to expand the international security assistance for
us outside of Kabul. And so we have to look at other alternatives
that could provide the security which is so vital to both continuing
the humanitarian effort and to assuring the sustainability of the
return of refugees.
QUESTION: On the Afghanistan situation, what actually is the shortfall
to make sure that these refugees don't flee, how long have you got
to get it in place? Is the U.S. prepared to step in if that's the
only solution?
DEWEY: The shortfall getting through the winter will be in the
region of 70 to 80 thousand tons. The pipeline after January has
nothing in it now. And this is critical because even after getting
through the winter you still have the hunger season which is the
spring until the first harvest which will occur later in the summer,
to get through. And so the needs are going to be very critical even
during the spring.
The United States is doing more than 80 percent now. Psychologically
it would be bad for the U.S. to step up and do anymore because unfortunately
the psychology is that other donors tend to sit back and say let
the U.S. do it. The burden sharing has got to work better and in
everything that I do I try to stress the need for burden sharing.
And to stress the importance of food in Afghanistan, because so
much of the future of that country does hinge on getting through
this winter. But probably through next winter as well, if the drought
and insecurity persist in that country.
QUESTION: It's a great pleasure to see you again Mr. Dewey. I was
late getting here because I was in an interview with a financial
person who was talking about the present situation in American finances.
This comes around the funding of this program and many other programs.
The outlook according to him was so bleak with today's figure and
the rest coming in that there was all kind of talk about the 55
or 60 more big companies going under. Now I am not smart enough
to know where all that tax money that would be there, goes, but
it all comes down, it was a little bit frightening. It comes down
to the fact, what do you do when you are in the business of saving
souls and helping people, and the work that you have done all your
life, and you are dependent upon people who are (inaudible) to programs
such as yours and others when that literally disappears. If that
was the case, or down to practically zero, is there some pretty
money or what's going to happen? And where are the refugees, are
they going to be just as many inside the U.S. if some of these predictions
were even half way true, what's going to happen?
DEWEY: Thank you for that. The U.S. is going to stay the course
on the humanitarian side. Never in recent history has the humanitarian
dimension been as prominent or as in synch with the military dimension
as we have seen in the war on terrorism. Remember from the very
first, while the US was bombing the oppressors we were feeding the
oppressed. And the US is going to keep that humanitarian dimension
in the forefront. In addition to the humanitarian dimension for
a crisis such as Afghanistan, the reconstruction dimension is also
at the front of the agenda. Who is going to build the first stretch
of road. this would be the road from Kabul to Kandahar to Iraq?
It will be USAID. Japan is also going to be cooperating with us.
The Asian Development Bank is looking at a road from the Pakistan
border up to Kandahar. So it is a matter of the U.S. taking the
lead, the U.S. committing its resources through the Congress and
getting other donors such as Japan to stick with us, and the international
financial institutions such as the Asian Development Bank to stick
with us.
So our job is not just taking leadership and getting our money
out there first, and getting the Congress to keep that level up,
but it's getting burden-sharing. I think most of my work is getting
burden sharing. It's not a popular role to play, it is not a fun
role to play, because there are lots of emergencies in the world
today and we know that there are a lots of competitors, but there
is no more important country than Afghanistan. So we have to sense
that priority, and we have to place our priority there. We have
to show that it can work there. Everyday there are just a lot of
pieces that have to be pulled together. U.S. leadership is important
in doing that. This is why Secretary Powell is so concerned that
we do our best to pull these pieces together, the burden-sharing
pieces together, the security, the humanitarian, and the reconstruction
pieces together, so that they are mutually reinforcing and not working
in competition with each other.
QUESTION: Are you making plans for Iraq and if so do you have any
notion of how many people you might have to deal with and so on
and how many people is the United States prepared to put into dealing
with the refugee problem and so on if there is an attack on Iraq?
DEWEY: I will play a Donald Rumsfeld on that and say that you know
there is no way that I could answer a question like that. But to
say that when I was here at UNHCR it was very difficult to get any
contingency planning for even the most obvious emergencies that
we could see materializing. That attitude has changed. With Afghanistan
it has changed. There is now a predisposition to get a grip on the
obvious and to do planning throughout the humanitarian community.
The problem of resources remains. How much stockpiling can you do
without the resources. And the problem of getting other donor states
involved in contingency planning. It is very difficult, not just
for the security aspects of it, but also the fact that if it is
not a clear and present danger that is knocking at your door right
now it is very hard to encourage UNHCR's efforts in stockpiling
things for contingency. So I think that you appreciate that I can't
be more specific than that.
QUESTION: I was wondering if you could give your assessment if you
are satisfied with the management of UNHCR under Mr. Lubbers.
DEWEY: You are asking someone who has watched several High Commissioners
and I am satisfied with the leadership that he has provided. He
has been tested in a very critical area, Afghanistan. I have mentioned
how he has pulled together an extraordinary team to cope with that
enormous responsibility which has more than doubled since they started
the effort. He communicates well with us in Washington. We sometimes
worry him to death with our questions and our oversight of UNHCR's
programs, but that is the way we operate with UNHCR. we have a very
intensive engagement with UNHCR and we found that Ruud Lubbers has
been not only a good interlocutor but has been someone that we can
recommend to other donors to support and to support in the way we
do. He has this concept of the indivisibility of protection and
assistance and he is carrying out that responsibility and accountability
in a way that we favor.
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